BORDEAUX-AQUITAINE 1940-1944
Bienvenue sur ce forum

Welcome on this forum

Willkommen in diesem Forum

Benvenuti in questo forum
BORDEAUX-AQUITAINE 1940-1944

Occupation libération Patrimoine militaire fortifié Archéologie urbaine Images d'hier et d'aujourd'hui Témoignages


Vous n'êtes pas connecté. Connectez-vous ou enregistrez-vous

BORDEAUX-AQUITAINE 1940-1944 » L'AQUITAINE » LA GIRONDE » GIRONDE : Le Médoc » Construction du camp d'Eysines

Construction du camp d'Eysines

Voir le sujet précédent Voir le sujet suivant Aller en bas  Message [Page 1 sur 1]

1 Construction du camp d'Eysines le Jeu 24 Jan 2013 - 21:13

Invité


Invité
Extrait des délibérations du Conseil Municipal d'Eysines


2 Re: Construction du camp d'Eysines le Sam 26 Jan 2013 - 16:56

Erwan


Admin
Admin
Istarnich, peux tu SVP situer ce camp à Eysines ... Very Happy


_________________
     Bordeaux - Aquitaine 1940 - 1944, Une région en guerre     
http://bordeaux3945.forumaquitaine.com

3 Re: Construction du camp d'Eysines le Sam 26 Jan 2013 - 17:23

Invité


Invité
Le camp d'Eysines n'a rien à voir avec celui de la Kriegsmarine au Vigean (aujourd'hui le lycée professionnel). Ce camp d'Eysines a tout d'abord hébergé les réfugiés espagnols, puis à partir de mai 40, des réfugiés du Nord de la France. Après l'armistice, les Allemands y emprisonnent des soldats prisonniers originaires des colonies. Enfin à la Libération, il servira de geôle à des femmes soupçonnées à tord ou à raison de sympathie avec l'ennemi, gardées par des troupes noires. (voir La corde à piano de Mme de la Bachellerie)

Aujourd'hui, il ne subsiste rien de ce camp si ce n'est un reste de muret dans un jardin à proximité du cimetière et un plan retrouvé par hasard par mes soins dans les archives municipales d'Eysines. (voir Eysines en image de M. Cognie aux éditions Alan Sutton - page 12)

Le cachet ci- dessous, qui a été scanné sur un document des Archives Municipales d'Eysines, émane du camp d'internement:

4 Re: Construction du camp d'Eysines le Jeu 1 Mai 2014 - 7:48

Erwan


Admin
Admin
A découvrir à cette adresse ....

http://invisiblebordeaux.blogspot.fr/2014/04/the-forgotten-wartime-camp-in-eysines.html#more

THE FORGOTTEN WARTIME CAMP IN EYSINES



We are in a residential quarter in the suburb of Eysines, barely 300 metres from the town’s parish church. The unusual thing about the quiet neighbourhood is that it was the location of a camp which operated throughout the Second World War.

The history of the camp is poorly documented. By far the most complete account I was able to find is on the Porte du Médoc website, where a chronological overview is coupled with someeye-witness testimonials. Sifting through the information available there and elsewhere, here are the basic facts. 


The construction of the 21-barrack camp was initiated by the French State in 1939. The plans had been triggered by the outbreak of war and the camp was originally designed to house civilians who had been drafted in to work at the gunpowder factory in Saint-Médard-en-Jalles, a short train journey away. This explains the location of the camp, close to Eysines railway station (and therefore the Bordeaux-Lacanau railway line, which is now a popular cycle path that has already been featured on the blog).

What used to be Eysines railway station, now a private home.
[size][color][font]
When the June 1940 armistice was signed, the camp was still not complete and the Germans took over the project, hooking it up to the electrical grid and bringing in running water (nearby homes also benefited from the work). Meanwhile, the camp’s raison d’être shifted from gunpowder factory-workers (none of whom were ever based there) to other categories of tenants, the first of whom arrived during the late summer months of 1940.

They were, in all likelihood, Spanish refugees followed closely by families who had been deported by the Germans from the Alsace-Lorraine region, and were now awaiting repatriation. They were free to come and go as they pleased and were protected by a small number of armed German soldiers. It is unclear what became of these refugees from the following winter onwards. Around that time, on the night of December 8th 1940, a number of Allied bombs fell nearby. It is thought that the camp may have been among the targets that night, along with Mérignac air baseand the Port of Bordeaux.

[/font][/color][/size]
The entrance to the camp was around this spot on Rue Déès. Note the spire of Eysines church in the distance.
[size][color][font]
Security at the camp then moved up a gear with the introduction of barbed wire fences and manned watchtowers ahead of the arrival of Senegalese troops, held within the camp and employed to build Atlantikwall bunkers and install telephone cables around Bordeaux, Blanquefort and Le Taillan. Details from then on are distinctly sketchy but around 1943, subsequent to Italy’s armistice with the Allies, most of the Italian marines based in Bordeaux switched their allegiance to Germany. Those who didn’t were held as prisoners of war and detained here in Eysines…

[/font][/color][/size]
Source: Porte du Médoc, 
full-size version here.
[size][color][font]
The following year marked the “libération” of France and the Eysines camp was used to hold German and Italian prisoners of war… before becoming a “camp de femmes”. The formerRésistants had gained control and were intent on tracking down compatriots who had collaborated with the enemy. Women who had developed ties with Germans had their heads shaved and were paraded in front of crowds of onlookers, before being held prisoner at Eysines. This state of affairs was as short-lived as the previous episodes: by October 1945, just two female prisoners remained.

Finally, the camp was taken over by the Ministère des Colonies and became home to Indochinese (Vietnamese) workers who had initially been brought over to mainland France to provide extra manpower. Of France’s 27,000 wartime Indochinese immigrants, it is thought that 2,000 worked at the Saint-Médard gunpowder factory! Repatriation measures were long and drawn out and, from 1945 to 1946 and possibly 1947, many were lodged at the Eysines camp, receiving rations from the French State which caused much envy among the locals.  

The Indochinese were the camp’s final residents and over the ensuing years the area developed into the residential quarter we can see today. It is said that nothing remains of the camp other than a small stretch of wall in a private garden! The main entrance to the camp on Rue du Déès is now someone’s driveway… 

[/font][/color][/size]
A reminder that the cycle path is not far away.
[size][color][font]
There is therefore little evidence to be uncovered of the wartime camp, which now appears to be little more than a footnote in the wartime history of the area; but for many individuals it surely formed the backdrop to what must have been a pivotal chapter in their lives.
[/font][/color][/size]

  • Find it: the main entrance was near 4 Rue du Déès and the camp extended between Rues de Marne, du Vignan and Aladin Miqueau, Eysinesformer Eysines railway station.
  • Read the full story on Porte du Médoc here, and eye-witness testimonials here



You might also like:



Bordeaux-Lacanau cycle path: from steam and diesel to pedal ...



The potatoes of Eysines



Beaudésert internment camp: the inconvenient truths of a ...



Camp du Courneau and the Natus necropolis: the story of ...

[url=http://widget3.linkwithin.com/redirect?url=http%3A//invisiblebordeaux.blogspot.com/2012/09/camp-de-souge-memorial-remembering-300.html&rtype=&vars=["http%3A//invisiblebordeaux.blogspot.fr/2014/04/the-forgotten-wartime-camp-in-eysines.html"%2C 1041367%2C 0%2C "http%3A//invisiblebordeaux.blogspot.com/2014/04/the-forgotten-wartime-camp-in-eysines.html"%2C 365806419%2C 4%2C 255124259]&ts=1398930302594][/url]


Camp de Souge memorial: remembering 300 wartime executions

[url=http://widget3.linkwithin.com/redirect?url=http%3A//invisiblebordeaux.blogspot.com/2012/09/camp-de-souge-memorial-remembering-300.html&rtype=&vars=["http%3A//invisiblebordeaux.blogspot.fr/2014/04/the-forgotten-wartime-camp-in-eysines.html"%2C 1041367%2C 0%2C "http%3A//invisiblebordeaux.blogspot.com/2014/04/the-forgotten-wartime-camp-in-eysines.html"%2C 365806419%2C 4%2C 255124259]&ts=1398930302594][/url]

Linkwithin


_________________
     Bordeaux - Aquitaine 1940 - 1944, Une région en guerre     
http://bordeaux3945.forumaquitaine.com

5 Re: Construction du camp d'Eysines le Jeu 1 Mai 2014 - 8:17

Invité


Invité
Article comprenant de nombreuses erreurs comme mélanger des données qui concernent le camp de la Kriegsmarine du Vigean (au bord de la voie ferrée Bordeaux - Lacanau et ce camp français qui se trouvait près du cimetière !!!

C'est avec ce genre d'article que se bâtissent des contre véritées  qui deviennent au cours des années des certitudes !!!

6 Re: Construction du camp d'Eysines le Lun 8 Sep 2014 - 12:44

lazer_one


BETASOM
... we should add something...

7 Re: Construction du camp d'Eysines le Lun 15 Sep 2014 - 16:14

Invité


Invité
Le camp d'Eysines se trouvait près du cimetière du bourg tandis que le camp de la Krigsmarine se trouvait sur le terrain occupé aujourd'hui par le Lycée professionnel et un parc municipal (quartier du Vigean)

8 Re: Construction du camp d'Eysines le Lun 15 Sep 2014 - 17:31

lazer_one


BETASOM
Italian prisoners  were prisoners at Vigean... Correct?


Lycée Professionnel Charles Péguy
2 Rue du Collège Technique
33320 Eysines
Francia

9 Re: Construction du camp d'Eysines le Mar 16 Sep 2014 - 7:55

Erwan


Admin
Admin
No ! They were prisonners in Saint medard en Jalles ....


_________________
     Bordeaux - Aquitaine 1940 - 1944, Une région en guerre     
http://bordeaux3945.forumaquitaine.com

10 Re: Construction du camp d'Eysines le Mar 16 Sep 2014 - 8:48

lazer_one


BETASOM
do you have an address on google.map Rolling Eyes

11 Re: Construction du camp d'Eysines le Mar 16 Sep 2014 - 11:32

Erwan


Admin
Admin
I am now at home ... easier to find something !

Italian prisoners >> Germignan
German prisoners >> Caupian
Prisoners of war Hospital  >>  Caupian
Cemetery >> caupian >> at least 5 italians !!


_________________
     Bordeaux - Aquitaine 1940 - 1944, Une région en guerre     
http://bordeaux3945.forumaquitaine.com

12 Re: Construction du camp d'Eysines le Dim 12 Oct 2014 - 17:14

lazer_one


BETASOM
With the help of Marco I found a description of the camp in Saint Medard in a book...

13 Re: Construction du camp d'Eysines le Lun 13 Oct 2014 - 7:02

Erwan


Admin
Admin
Please tell me more ! Very Happy


_________________
     Bordeaux - Aquitaine 1940 - 1944, Une région en guerre     
http://bordeaux3945.forumaquitaine.com

14 Re: Construction du camp d'Eysines le Lun 13 Oct 2014 - 18:36

lazer_one


BETASOM
I try to summarize:
the book is "Le avventure di un marinaio di Betasom" written by Mario Frandi.

one chapter (about 20 pages) summarize the period between Sept. 9th and Sept. 28th: who refused to join the german were transferred from Gradignan to Medard (in the night)
as described in the book, the german soldiers opened a "unesed" camp and about 100 italians were distributed into the barracks.
I want to read again the text but there are some important notes:
around the camp there were 7 turrets for sentinels.
the camp (at least one side) was nearby a street and, on the other side of the street, there was another camp with black prisoners.
in this camp there were only seamen and petty officers. it was only a (medical) officer The officers were in another camp (where???)

but the most important note is that one of that prisoners is still alive!!!

I need to understand better the situation in Medard: I understood that since 1915 it was an explosive and ammunition production plant in Medard. Is it correct?
Moreover, were several camps and barracks for standard workers and also for prisoners to be employed in the plant.
What happened during ww2? was the plant operative?

15 Re: Construction du camp d'Eysines le Mar 14 Oct 2014 - 6:12

lazer_one


BETASOM
what about this link?

http://portedumedoc.free.fr/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1068&Itemid=1209

 et l’armée allemande clôtura le camp de fils barbelés avec des miradors de garde. Au début, des civils dont j’ignore la provenance, furent internés et gardés militairement. Ils furent remplacés vers 1941(?) par des prisonniers tirailleurs sénégalais que l’armée occupante employait à construire des blockhaus et des lignes téléphoniques enterrées autour de Bordeaux. 


16 Re: Construction du camp d'Eysines Aujourd'hui à 9:35

Contenu sponsorisé


Voir le sujet précédent Voir le sujet suivant Revenir en haut  Message [Page 1 sur 1]

Permission de ce forum:
Vous ne pouvez pas répondre aux sujets dans ce forum